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and so does romney. >> as vice-president joe biden and republican congress member paul ryan spar in kentucky, in their only vice-presidential debate, we break the sound barrier including two candidates shut out by the two men political parties. chicano writer luis rodriguez, the vice president to candidate of the justice party, and cheri honkala of the green party. >> there's a real crisis happening in this country. when corporations and the wealthy to pay someone to do child labor or slave wages, why would they pay the american worker a decent wage? >> and gang mentality, yet to think differently. do not think about revenge and this kind of stuff. guess who does more than anybody? our leaders, our government, the people who are supposed to run everything. >> first, the european union wins the nobel peace prize. we will speak with tariq ali, commentator and writer. all of that and more coming up. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are on our 100-city tour, broadcasting from albuquerque, new mexico. vice-president joe biden and republican
and so does romney. >> as vice-president joe biden and republican congress member paul ryan spar in kentucky, in their only vice-presidential debate, we break the sound barrier including two candidates shut out by the two men political parties. chicano writer luis rodriguez, the vice president to candidate of the justice party, and cheri honkala of the green party. >> there's a real crisis happening in this country. when corporations and the wealthy to pay someone to do child labor...
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romney says he knows who won the vice presidential will debate. we will find out if voters agree. teaming up on the campaign trail tonight check up with them in the battleground state of ohio. that's coming up inside fox report. >> first, more than a month later secretary of state hillary clinton says she still does not know all of the details about that consulate attack in libya. >> to this day, to this day, we do not have a complete picture. we do not have all the answers. >> shepard: now we are learning more about the surveillance video of the compound that could help give us some answers. cath -- catherine herridge is in the d.c. newsroom tonight. >> security video taken by cameras like this one you see here at the consulate also shows there was no demonstration when the attack unfolded at approximately 9:35 p.m. the surveillance video was character rised to fox news is quote limited, grainy and in places hard to make out. footage from the gates show men in profile and efforts are ongoing to match the faces to known i didn't -- jihadists. they are constantly frustrated with th
romney says he knows who won the vice presidential will debate. we will find out if voters agree. teaming up on the campaign trail tonight check up with them in the battleground state of ohio. that's coming up inside fox report. >> first, more than a month later secretary of state hillary clinton says she still does not know all of the details about that consulate attack in libya. >> to this day, to this day, we do not have a complete picture. we do not have all the answers....
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mitt romney. >> the vice president directly contradicted the sworn testimony of state department officials. he's doubling down on denial. and we need to understand exactly what happened. when the vice president of the united states directly contradicts the testimony, sworn testimony of state department officials, american citizens have a right to know just what's going on. >> okay, we need to break this down and to do that i want to bring in cnn's jill dougherty live for us at the state department. first, jill, let me play a little sound. we need to hear what the vice president says last night this is vice president joe biden explaining the administration's evolving accounts of what happened in benghazi, you know the date, september 11th, the day terrorists killed united states ambassador chris stevens. biden is saying that as new facts have become available, u.s. intelligence has changed what it's telling the obama administration. let's listen. >> as they learn more facts about exactly what happened, they changed their assessment. that's why there is also an investigation headed by tom pi
mitt romney. >> the vice president directly contradicted the sworn testimony of state department officials. he's doubling down on denial. and we need to understand exactly what happened. when the vice president of the united states directly contradicts the testimony, sworn testimony of state department officials, american citizens have a right to know just what's going on. >> okay, we need to break this down and to do that i want to bring in cnn's jill dougherty live for us at the...
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>>reporter: the romney campaign is going after the vice president about the comments on the benghazi consulate. particularly in light of what the state department officials testified to earlier in the week on the stump in richmond, virginia, governor romney says it raises a lot of troubling questions, new questions about the attack. >> when the vice president of the united states directly ton extra -- contradicts the sworn testimony of state officials american citizens have the right to find out what is going on. we will find out. >>reporter: the romney campaign going after the obama campaign for suggesting the only reason the murders are an issue is because romney and ryan are making it one. romney said the reason it is an issue is because an american consulate was attacked by terrorists and four americans are dead. trace? >>trace: thank you, john roberts, from virginia. our g.o.p. strategist and former texas political director for bob dole's campaign and a democratic consultant and former advisor to senators john kerry and ted kennedy. anthony, i don't know if you could hear this,
>>reporter: the romney campaign is going after the vice president about the comments on the benghazi consulate. particularly in light of what the state department officials testified to earlier in the week on the stump in richmond, virginia, governor romney says it raises a lot of troubling questions, new questions about the attack. >> when the vice president of the united states directly ton extra -- contradicts the sworn testimony of state officials american citizens have the...
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biden attack on the 47% video, governor romney 47% video tape, saying, vice-president biden, you can understand that sometimes things come out of your mouth the wrong way. >> yeah, the vice-president made a bit of news there, saying it was the intelligence committee that told them, according to him, initially, that it was the video that led to the attack on our consulate, in benghazi. i mean, he came out explicitly and said that the intelligence community gave them that information. he went on to talk about the situation there, saying we were not told they wanted more security in benghazi, which we will get to, i am sure with chris wallace, who has been doing fact checking, but there's directly contrary to what we heard from the state department officials themselves, yesterday. paul ryan, for the most part, maintaining his cool, not interrupting joe biden. but joe biden, sort of what we saw mitt romney do the first time around, always getting the last word, making sure that no point went unsubpoenad to, paul ryan looking maybe more respectful, but perhaps in the minds of some, perhap
biden attack on the 47% video, governor romney 47% video tape, saying, vice-president biden, you can understand that sometimes things come out of your mouth the wrong way. >> yeah, the vice-president made a bit of news there, saying it was the intelligence committee that told them, according to him, initially, that it was the video that led to the attack on our consulate, in benghazi. i mean, he came out explicitly and said that the intelligence community gave them that information. he...
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after the vice president debate, romney-ryan ticket is riding high with polls and pundits dubbing it a draw. >> did you get a chance to watch the debate last night? yeah. yeah. i think you might agree with me that there was one person on stage last night who was thoughtful, and respectful, steady, and poised. the kind of perp you want to turn to in a crisis. that was the next vice president of the united states paul ryan. [ applause ] >> i feel great. >> over breakfast, ryan said he was pleased by the performance and had been ready for biden's attacks. >> how do you feel? >> it's what i expected. >> biden was clearly the aggressor. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of mu lar i can. >> vice president scoffed so much at ryan the rnc pumped out a web video immediately. snap polls showed a split decision. 48% of debate watchers said ryan won in cnn poll to 44% biden. >> we're saying these are from your act wares -- >> who interrupted ryan so often he accused biden overcompensating for the president's losing performance last week. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for
after the vice president debate, romney-ryan ticket is riding high with polls and pundits dubbing it a draw. >> did you get a chance to watch the debate last night? yeah. yeah. i think you might agree with me that there was one person on stage last night who was thoughtful, and respectful, steady, and poised. the kind of perp you want to turn to in a crisis. that was the next vice president of the united states paul ryan. [ applause ] >> i feel great. >> over breakfast, ryan...
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governor romney, joined by paul ryan, the vice presidential run -- nominee, a joint appearance at 5:40 eastern time, to a clock 44 those of you in the western coast. as the polls show, the rates -- the race has tightened. republican line, cathy. good morning. caller: i was also born at mercy hospital. my concern is about unemployment. i understand they are saying the rates have gone down. i was disappointed because from what i understand, the statistics for unemployment are based on the amount of unemployment checks that are issued and who are being traced, etc. how many people have had their unemployment run out. how the -- how are they being traced ask? i believe they are higher than what is being stated, the unemployment rates. i wish that came out tonight. i do not believe anyone is being traced in any way. they are left there to hang. >> nest is a viewer from greenbelt, maryland. democrat line. welcome to the conversation. caller: how are we doing today? >> fine, thank you. caller: my whole thing is biden put everything on the table. he expressed things he should not have expresse
governor romney, joined by paul ryan, the vice presidential run -- nominee, a joint appearance at 5:40 eastern time, to a clock 44 those of you in the western coast. as the polls show, the rates -- the race has tightened. republican line, cathy. good morning. caller: i was also born at mercy hospital. my concern is about unemployment. i understand they are saying the rates have gone down. i was disappointed because from what i understand, the statistics for unemployment are based on the amount...
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he did a good job of explaining why governor romney will turn around the economy and i thought the vice president was a lot of the time was rude and, you know, when they prep you for debates andrea, they always teach you or they warn you, you got to be respectful of the format and audience because if you're not people don't like it and then they turn off what you're saying. they don't hear the substance of it. i thought the vice president dialed it down a little in the second half but the first half of the debate he was over the top. >> there were a couple points where paul ryan had to defend his own position where they differ with mitt romney's. one in particular was abortion. let's watch. >> the policy of a romney administration will be to oppose abortion with the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother. >> well, i guess he accept govern's romney's position now because in the past he has argued there was rape and forcible rape. >> we tried to play that earlier but had problems with our tape technically in new york. but the point being, that as you know, paul ryan has a very
he did a good job of explaining why governor romney will turn around the economy and i thought the vice president was a lot of the time was rude and, you know, when they prep you for debates andrea, they always teach you or they warn you, you got to be respectful of the format and audience because if you're not people don't like it and then they turn off what you're saying. they don't hear the substance of it. i thought the vice president dialed it down a little in the second half but the first...
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the vice president made the claim that mitt romney said let detroit go bankrupt. >> we immediately went out and rescued general motors, went ahead and made sure we cut taxes for the middle class. in addition to that, when that occurred, what did romney do? romney said, no, let detroit go bankrupt. >> romney penned an op-ed that the editors titled, "let detroit go bankrupt." romney nerve uver used those wo. he called for a managed bankruptcy of auto companies. something that the obama administration ultimately implemented. by the letter, the verdict is false. romney never said let detroit go bankrupt. also, his opposition to the bailout or direct federal investment puts him at add odds. will the obama plan cause people to lose insurance? ryan said it will cost 20 million people their insurance. >> look at the string of broken promises. if you like your health care plan, you can keep it, try telling that to the 20 million people who will lose insurance. >> the congressional budget analysis mentioned the possibility -- the outside possibility of 20,000 people losing cover rage due to the l
the vice president made the claim that mitt romney said let detroit go bankrupt. >> we immediately went out and rescued general motors, went ahead and made sure we cut taxes for the middle class. in addition to that, when that occurred, what did romney do? romney said, no, let detroit go bankrupt. >> romney penned an op-ed that the editors titled, "let detroit go bankrupt." romney nerve uver used those wo. he called for a managed bankruptcy of auto companies. something...
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you're watching ms nbc's live coverage of the vice presidential debate. >>> mitt romney's a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. yeah, i'm looking to save, but i'm not sure which policy is right for me. you should try our coverage checker. it helps you see if you have too much coverage or not enough, making it easier to get what you need. [ beeping ] these are great! [ beeping ] how are you, um, how are you doing? i'm going to keep looking over here. probably a good idea. ken: what's a good idea? nothing. with coverage checker, it's easy to find your perfect policy. visit progressive.com today. >>> i thought joe biden was terrific tonight. i could not be prouder of him. i thought he made a very strong case, and, you know, i really think that his passion for making sure that the economy grows for the middle class came true. i'm really proud of him. >> that's president obama looking pretty good, arriving at andrews air fo
you're watching ms nbc's live coverage of the vice presidential debate. >>> mitt romney's a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. yeah, i'm looking to save, but i'm not sure which policy is right for me. you should try our coverage checker. it helps you see if you have too much coverage or not enough, making it...
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that's what we're going to push for in a romney administration. >> vice president? i have a feeling you have a few things to say here? >> the idea, if you heard, that little thing on 47%, you think he just made a mistake, then i think you're -- i got a bridge to sell you. look, i don't doubt his personal generosity and i understand what it's like. when i was a little younger than the congressman, my wife was in an accident, killed my daughter and my wife and my two sons survived. i have sat in the momehomes of people who have gone through what i went through because the one thing you can give people solace is to know if they know you've been through it, that they can make it. so, i don't doubt his personal commitment to individuals. but you know what? i know he had no commitment to the automobile industry. he just -- he said, let it go bankrupt. period. let it drop out. all this talk -- we saved a million jobs. 200,000 people are working today. and i have never met two guys who are more down on america across the board. we're told everything's going bad -- 5.2 milli
that's what we're going to push for in a romney administration. >> vice president? i have a feeling you have a few things to say here? >> the idea, if you heard, that little thing on 47%, you think he just made a mistake, then i think you're -- i got a bridge to sell you. look, i don't doubt his personal generosity and i understand what it's like. when i was a little younger than the congressman, my wife was in an accident, killed my daughter and my wife and my two sons survived. i...
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that's what we're going to push for in a romney administration. >> vice president? i have a feeling you have a few things to say here. >> the idea, if you heard that little quote about the 30%, if you think that, i've got a bridge to sell you. i don't doubt his personal generosity. i understand what it's like. when i was a little younger than the congressman, my wife was in an accident, killed my daughter and my wife and my two sons survived. i've sat in the homes of many people that have gone through what i have gone through. so i don't doubt his personal commitment to individuals. but you know what? i know he had no commitment to the automobile industry. he said let it go bankrupt, period. let it drop out. all this talk, we saved a million jobs. 200,000 people are working today. and i've never met two guys more down on america across the board. we're told everything is going badly. 5. 2 million new jobs, private sector jobs. we need more. but 5. 2 million. if they would get out of the way and let us pass the tax cut for the middle class and make it permanent. if t
that's what we're going to push for in a romney administration. >> vice president? i have a feeling you have a few things to say here. >> the idea, if you heard that little quote about the 30%, if you think that, i've got a bridge to sell you. i don't doubt his personal generosity. i understand what it's like. when i was a little younger than the congressman, my wife was in an accident, killed my daughter and my wife and my two sons survived. i've sat in the homes of many people...
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and so does romney. bill: he also made the comment that the vice president was under duress. now everybody is trying to figure out why the aggressive posture. was it a poor performance last week from the president, was it a slide in the polls? >> yeah, both. i mean that's exactly why vice president biden came out shooting. i thought it was a revealing response. i mean i would have laughed and left ryan's alone but biden couldn't help himself. he says i always say what i mean. they are going to put you y'all back in chains in virginia. the mulled class has been buried the last four years. did he really say, i always say what i mean? it was like validating his propensity for gaffes new were tweeting a lot last night. you said at one point. biden means what he says, he'd like to put y'all back in chains. you said he did an immigration of al gore from the year 2000. snickers, grim masses and exaggerated gestures. that is the focus of so much analysis on this debate last night. does it only matter today, over the weekend or beyond in a. >> beyond that. remember, look we remember i
and so does romney. bill: he also made the comment that the vice president was under duress. now everybody is trying to figure out why the aggressive posture. was it a poor performance last week from the president, was it a slide in the polls? >> yeah, both. i mean that's exactly why vice president biden came out shooting. i thought it was a revealing response. i mean i would have laughed and left ryan's alone but biden couldn't help himself. he says i always say what i mean. they are...
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you're watching ms nbc's live coverage of the vice presidential debate. >>> mitt romney's a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the nissan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima. it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ no, no, no, stop! humans -- one day, we're coming up with the theory of relativity, the next... stop, stop, stop! my car! not so much. but that's okay. you're covered with great ideas like optional better car replacement from liberty mutual insurance. total your car, and we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. learn about it at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility -- what's your policy? >>
you're watching ms nbc's live coverage of the vice presidential debate. >>> mitt romney's a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the nissan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced...
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mate, romney seized on what his campaign has dubbed biden's benghazi bungle. >> because the vice president directly contradicted the sworn testimony of state department officials. he's doubling down on denial. and we need to understand exactly what happened. >> reporter: back in the spin room obama campaign manager said biden proved it was ryan who was unprepared. >> he got past paul ryan's index card talking points and got into the details. that's exactly what the american voters wanted. >> reporter: both campaigns concede what happened here in kentucky may not have a lasting effect on the polls but may have set a new combative tone to the race that could carry into the debate on tuesday. >> jim acosta thanks very much. let's go to the democrats now. they're also declaring victory as the joe biden in your face performance is what the president needed. although he wrapped up a rally in of all places paul ry's home state of wisconsin. >> i'm sure you observed last night we had a little bit of a debate. with a gentleman and he is a gentleman, a gentleman from wisconsin, congressman ryan who
mate, romney seized on what his campaign has dubbed biden's benghazi bungle. >> because the vice president directly contradicted the sworn testimony of state department officials. he's doubling down on denial. and we need to understand exactly what happened. >> reporter: back in the spin room obama campaign manager said biden proved it was ryan who was unprepared. >> he got past paul ryan's index card talking points and got into the details. that's exactly what the american...
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. >> reporter: vice president joe biden continued to play offense in wisconsin friday. >> it's time romney and ryan and the republican congress take a pledge to the middle class people saying we're going to level the playing field. >> reporter: a day after a spirited vice presidential debate. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of marlakey. >> watch out middle class. the tax bill is coming to you. >> reporter: both candidates headed back to the campaign trail. >> reporter: congressman, how you feeling about last night? >> i feel great. >> reporter: paul ryan stopped for breakfast with his family before teaming up with mitt romney in ohio. romney used an earlier virginia rally to praise his running mate's debate performance. >> there was one person on stage last night who was thoughtful and respectful, steady and poised. >> reporter: the obama campaign said the vice president walked away with the win, but friday the white house had to defend his answer about the deadly attack in benghazi, libya. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. >> reporter: former security officials testifie
. >> reporter: vice president joe biden continued to play offense in wisconsin friday. >> it's time romney and ryan and the republican congress take a pledge to the middle class people saying we're going to level the playing field. >> reporter: a day after a spirited vice presidential debate. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of marlakey. >> watch out middle class. the tax bill is coming to you. >> reporter: both candidates headed back to the campaign...
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there is pressure on both men, congressman ryan to keep mitt romney's momentum going, and vice president biden to stop that momentum. the moderator tonight is martha raddatz, and for this debate the candidates will be seated at the table. >> good evening, and welcome to the first and only vice presidential debate of 2012s sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. i'm martha raddatz of abc news, and i am honored to moderate this debate between two moan who have dedicated much of their lives to public service. tonight's debate is divided between domestic and foreign policy issues. and i'm going to move back and forth between foreign and domestic since that is what a vice president or president would have to do. we will have nine different segments. at the beginning of each segment, i will ask both candidates a question, and they will each have two minutes to answer. then i will encourage a discussion between the candidates with follow-up questions. by coin toss, it has been determined that vice president biden will be first to answer the opening question. we have a wonderful aud
there is pressure on both men, congressman ryan to keep mitt romney's momentum going, and vice president biden to stop that momentum. the moderator tonight is martha raddatz, and for this debate the candidates will be seated at the table. >> good evening, and welcome to the first and only vice presidential debate of 2012s sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. i'm martha raddatz of abc news, and i am honored to moderate this debate between two moan who have dedicated much of...
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under a romney administration we will have credibility on this issue. >> vice president biden. >> incredible. look, imagine had we let republican congress work out the sanctions. you think there's any possibility the entire world would have joined us? russia and china? all of our allies? these are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions, period. period. when governor romney's asked about it he said we got to keep these sanctions. when he said well, you're talking about doing more. are you going to go to war? is that what you want to do to you. >> we want to prevent war. >> the interesting thing is how are they going to prevent war. how are they going to prevent war. they say there is nothing more that they say we should do than what we've already done. number one. and number two, with regard to the ability of the united states to take action militarily, it is not in my purview to talk about classified information. but we feel quite confident we could deal a serious blow to the iranians. but number two, the iranians are the-- israelies in the united states, our military and i
under a romney administration we will have credibility on this issue. >> vice president biden. >> incredible. look, imagine had we let republican congress work out the sanctions. you think there's any possibility the entire world would have joined us? russia and china? all of our allies? these are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions, period. period. when governor romney's asked about it he said we got to keep these sanctions. when he said well, you're talking...
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that's what we're going to push for in a romney administration. >> vice president? i have a feeling you have a few things to say here. >> the idea, if you heard that little quote about the 30%, if you think that, i've got a bridge to sell you. i don't doubt his personal generosity. i understand what it's like. when i was a little younger than the congressman, my wife was in an accident, killed my daughter and my wife and my two sons survived. i've sat in the homes of many people that have gone through what i have gone through. so i don't doubt his personal commitment to individuals. but you know what? i know he had no commitment to the automobile industry. he said let it go bankrupt, period. let it drop out. all this talk, we saved a million jobs. 200,000 people are working today. and i've never met two guys more down on america across the board. we're told everything is going badly. 5. 2 million new jobs, private sector jobs. we need more. but 5. 2 million. if they would get out of the way and let us pass the tax cut for the middle class and make it permanent. if t
that's what we're going to push for in a romney administration. >> vice president? i have a feeling you have a few things to say here. >> the idea, if you heard that little quote about the 30%, if you think that, i've got a bridge to sell you. i don't doubt his personal generosity. i understand what it's like. when i was a little younger than the congressman, my wife was in an accident, killed my daughter and my wife and my two sons survived. i've sat in the homes of many people...
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: after several heated exchanges ryan said romney's performance last week is motivating the vice president. >> i know you're under a lot of stress to make up. >> reporter: as for who won it depends who you ask. polls are mixed. in a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters 50% thought the vice president won. 31% sided for ryan and 19% called it a tie. not surprisingly both sides claimed victory. mitt romney's campaign said biden seemed off balance and strange. the president's team said the debate exposed the risk of electing a romney/ryan ticket. the candidate also disagreed over foreign policy. congressman ryan pointing to the death of four americans in libya as the administration weakness on abroad while biden said romney's campaign talks first before they know what the facts are. back to you. >>> that cbs news poll found the overall impressions of both vice presidential candidate improved after the debate. 55% of those asked if bid inis somebody they can relate to. 48% for ryan. 74% also say that about ryan about being knowledgeable and 85 for biden. >>> cbsnews.com senior political reporter
: after several heated exchanges ryan said romney's performance last week is motivating the vice president. >> i know you're under a lot of stress to make up. >> reporter: as for who won it depends who you ask. polls are mixed. in a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters 50% thought the vice president won. 31% sided for ryan and 19% called it a tie. not surprisingly both sides claimed victory. mitt romney's campaign said biden seemed off balance and strange. the president's team said...
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that's exactly what mitt romney and i are proposing. >> reporter: the romney campaign is praising ryan's performance in last night's vice presidential debate against joe biden. as the two men discussed domestic and foreign policy, the current vice president spent most of the night on offense. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> reporter: he interrupted ryan and talked into the camera directly several times. >> folks, use your common sense. who do you trust on that? >> reporter: president obama is proud of his running mate's perform manuals. today he's at the white house preparing for his next debate against mitt romney. in a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters taken right after the debate, 50% thought vice president biden won. >> these guys bet against america all the time. >> reporter: other polls gave ryan the edge. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> reporter: it remains to be seen if last night's showdown will sway voters. his torians say the past eight vice presidential debates had al
that's exactly what mitt romney and i are proposing. >> reporter: the romney campaign is praising ryan's performance in last night's vice presidential debate against joe biden. as the two men discussed domestic and foreign policy, the current vice president spent most of the night on offense. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> reporter: he interrupted ryan and talked into the camera directly several times. >> folks, use your common sense. who do you...
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since he got picked by mitt romney to be the vice president, though, they've kind of muzzled that. they haven't wanted to get too close to ryan's budget and he's been, i think, a lot less effective. if you remember his convention speech, there were very, very high hopes for it. it was a surprisingly light and unspecific speech and led to a rapid backlash. there were a lot of falsehoods in it, a lot of what he argued was misleading. he's good at what he is good at. he's not necessarily great at being a guy who tries to feel your pain, not necessarily great about being folksy. ryan isn't a superman who can do all things. he's simply a very skilled debater at one particular kind of thing. i think if he's in the debate tonight trying to remember not to be the guy he actually is, that trying to put out a false version of himself is going to be such an effort over the course of the night it's not going to prove to be an effective strategy in the long run. >> ezra klein, we'll check in with you on matters wonk-wise and otherwise. a reminder, msnbc will carry every minute of the debate uni
since he got picked by mitt romney to be the vice president, though, they've kind of muzzled that. they haven't wanted to get too close to ryan's budget and he's been, i think, a lot less effective. if you remember his convention speech, there were very, very high hopes for it. it was a surprisingly light and unspecific speech and led to a rapid backlash. there were a lot of falsehoods in it, a lot of what he argued was misleading. he's good at what he is good at. he's not necessarily great at...
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. >> under a romney administer, we will have credibility under this issue. >> vice president biden. >> that's incredible. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place. >> oh, god. >> over 100 can criminal investigations have been launched. >> go ahead. >> martha, look -- >> and at one point the vice president seemed to even hold himself back from actually cursing. >> this is a bunch of stuff. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> irish call it malarkey. >> ryan, of course, largely avoided taking the bait. he did push back at biden a few times including this little zinger. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> the democratic base needed a shot in the arm and biden gave it to them, deploying several attacks that romney failed to use in just one minute of the debate. one minute. auto bailout, his statement that the foreclosure crisis could have run its course and the infamous 47% remark. take a listen to part of it. >>
. >> under a romney administer, we will have credibility under this issue. >> vice president biden. >> that's incredible. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place. >> oh, god. >> over 100 can criminal investigations have been launched. >> go ahead. >> martha, look -- >> and at one point the vice president seemed to even hold himself back from actually cursing. >> this is a bunch of stuff. >> what does that mean, a bunch...